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Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.19 11:47:00 - [1] You are all spoilt. CCP has spoilt you with expansions. It is CCP's game, not yours, don't forget that. You are not shareholders, you shouldn't really get any say at all. You say CCP doesn't listen? Skill queue, wormholes, T2 BS, Invention, Sov 2.0, Titan DD nerf, nano nerf, ecm nerf, falcon nerf, need I go on. People hate CCP for nerfing things, people love it when CCP nerfs the things they complained about. People want CCP to not add too much new content and focus on fixing the bugs. People want more new content AND CCP to fix the bugs. People want bugs fixed and no new content. People want PI. People don't want PI. People want Incarna. People don't want Incarna. People want DUST. People don't want DUST. People think their set of values and concepts about EVE are dominant over others whose views do not coincide. So what if you pay a subscription? So do I! Most of the eve playerbase just enjoys whatever CCP implements and they don't *** on these forums. You know if I were the owner of CCP, i'd have said off a long time ago and taken the money and sold up to faceless corporation XYZ. Have they done this...no. You all sound like 4 yr olds demanding ice cream before dinner, but worse yet you are demanding no ice cream, ice cream after dinner and no dinner with just ice cream. What gives CCP consensus? CSM. You want this to be a democracy then go through CSM or run for it. Stop *ing about stuff that quite frankly most of you haven't even tried. Most comments on PI are from people who haven't even tested it. You know who CCP will listen to, people testing their for them. Good Day! Originally by:** Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.19 11:57:00 - [2] Originally by: Ji Sama Edited by: Ji Sama on 19/04/2010 11:49:03 Actually i own shares in ccp, so its MY GAME. Really because CCP is a private company. Unless you can present proof otherwise? or (troll answer) Whatever! Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:46:00 - [3] Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Where do you think the value of the shares that the shareholders are holding comes from? Ohhhhh, yeah didn't think about that part didja? Cause the value of the shares comes from how many subscriptions that CCP can keep active. So yeah, we do own the game. In fact, we the players have the entire game by the balls. There are no shares, it is a private company. Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Take the Need for Speed nerf. No one was complaining about how fast interceptors and vagabonds were going. Actually vagas were one of the main targets. Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Someone else made a very long and very well thought out post for how to completely revolutionize low sec in the game with black markets and a lot of other really good ideas. It got hundreds of thumbs up in the CSM voting forum and then disappeared into the mist. I would also really like to see if they took a vote on revamping low sec completely or adding Planetary Interaction into the game... which one would win? I could accept the results either way, but I think even CCP might be surprised to find out which one would win. You'll only get players in to low sec that want to be there. The only real way is to make low-sec safe, there are plenty of rewards worth going into low sec for, if you bother to use the appropriately fit ships Originally by: Neesa Corrinne What would be really cool of CCP is if they would start taking votes on things before just dumping whatever they want into the game. I would really like to see what the majority of players would say to incarna or PI. Something in the back of my mind tells me that the majority of players would vote on fixing lag before adding planetary interaction. Heck, they can't even keep some bugs fixed! I just realized the other day that the old bug where your ship view changes to so far zoomed in that you see the inside of your ship every time you undock or jump through a gate is BACK. I mean, really? Really? Democracy is not actually good for everything. Majority rules is not preferable for the design of a dynamic, sandbox environment, democracy will kill this. CSM is the way to go, vote for your candidates wisely. Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Lexx Khadar Personally I think players should only have a small input into any MMO's development. Too many entrenched / self centred interests. Yes its good for the player-base to suggest things to improve the game but they should never feel entitled that those things get put into action. You should just feel lucky that they consider some suggestions. never mind if they actually make action of them. This is the right attitude! Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.19 17:53:00 - [5] Originally by: S'qarpium D'igil Oh look, another "I'm right and you're wrong no matter what you say!" post. OP is ironic. I am fully aware of the irony Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.19 18:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Pottsey Celeste Coeval said ôYou are all spoilt. CCP has spoilt you with expansions. It is CCP's game, not yours, don't forget that. You are not shareholders, you shouldn't really get any say at all.ö Your having a laugh right? We are anything but spoilt. We get a higher then average price to pay and lower then average new content. We do get a say. If they ignore us and keep doing what we all hate we all leave and they go bankrupt. There business is to make products we all like and to keep us customers happy. That means listening to us at least part listening to us. Eve is an MMO with a monthly subscription. You expect a certain amount of standards from an MMO with a subscription. If CCP keep droped all new content people would quit and they would go bankrupt. You don't seem to get that you are speaking for yourself... The fact that you disagree with me shows that there are other opinions about what CCP does right and wrong other than your own. I get the standards from CCP I want, that is why I and you are on these forums and not another MMO. Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Celeste Coeval (troll answer) Whatever! And your post was a troll post, so...what's your point? exasperation is what I am exhibiting, I am not trolling. Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2010.04.20 13:07:00 - [7] Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 20/04/2010 13:10:34 Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 20/04/2010 13:09:52 Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Devan Reale tl; dr WTF is "spoilt"? Didn't read past first sentence because of spelling/grammar. I think it's a silly English way of spelling spoiled. Or maybe it's a different tense that they use. I'm not really sure. There are other words where they put a -t instead of a -ed, too. It looks weird to me too. A past tense and a past participle of spoil. Originally by: Emperor Cheney To some people, Eve is a product that they pay for. When people are unhappy with a product they paid for, they often complain To other people, Eve is a way of life. When people complain about their way of life, they get personally offended. These people are known as fanbois, and kind of sad. The OP is of the latter group. The OP is mid way between both groups actually. Originally by: XenosisReaper No Superb Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.

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